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Wednesday, March 30, 2005


Dear faith Sons and Daughters of God in True Spiritual Liberty,

The following, very significant revelatory text, is fully in the PublicDomain; and thus you may freely share this with many as you are so led inyour God-Given spiritual liberty.

The added comments of Teacher Brother Dave are in square brackets [ ]


The Master was a perfected specimen of Human self-control. When He was reviled, He reviled not; when He suffered, He uttered no threats against his tormentors; when He was denounced by his enemies, He simply committed himself to the righteous judgment of the Father in Heaven.

At one of the evening conferences, Andrew asked Jesus: "Master, are we to practice self-denial as John taught us, or are we to strive for the self-control of your teaching? Wherein does your teaching differ from that of John?" Jesus answered: "John indeed taught you the way of righteousness in accordance with the light and laws of his fathers, and that was the religion of self-examination and self-denial. But I come with a new message of self-forgetfulness and self-control. I show to you the way of Life as revealed to Me by my Father in Heaven.

"Verily, verily, I say to you, he who rules his own self is greater than he who captures a city. Self-mastery is the measure of man's moral nature and the indicator of his spiritual development. In the old order you fasted and prayed; as the new creature of the rebirth of the spirit, you are taught to believe and rejoice. In the Father's Kingdom [Family] you are to become new creatures; old things are to pass away; behold I show you how all things are to become new. And by your love for one another you are to convince the world that you have passed from bondage to liberty, from death into life everlasting.

"By the old way you seek to suppress, obey, and conform to the rules of living; by the new way you are first TRANSFORMED by the Spirit of Truth and thereby strengthened in your inner soul by the constant spiritual renewing of your mind, and so are you endowed with the power of the certain and joyous performance of the gracious, acceptable, and perfect will of God. Forget not -- it is your personal faith in the exceedingly great and precious promises of God that ensures your becoming partakers of the divine nature. Thus by your faith and the Spirit's transformation, you become in reality the temples of God, and his Spirit actually dwells within you. If, then, the Spirit dwells within you, you are no longer bondslaves of the flesh but free and liberated sons of the Spirit. The new law of the Spirit endows you with the liberty of self-mastery in place of the old law of the fear of self-bondage and the slavery of self-denial.

"Many times, when you have done evil, you have thought to charge up your acts to the influence of the evil one; when in reality you have but been led astray by your own natural tendencies. Did not the Prophet Jeremiah long ago tell you that the human heart is deceitful above all things and sometimes even desperately wicked? How easy for you to become self-deceived and thereby fall into foolish fears, divers [many] lusts, enslaving pleasures, malice, envy, and even vengeful hatred!

"Salvation is by the regeneration of the Spirit and not by the self-righteous deeds of the flesh. You are justified by faith and fellowshipped by grace, not by fear and the self-denial of the flesh, albeit the Father's children who have been born of the Spirit are ever and always MASTERS of the self and all that pertains to the desires of the flesh. When you know that you are saved by faith, you have real peace with God. [Amen ! Even the Paradise Peace of Jesus ! lavishly bestowed here upon all of his faith sons of God !] And all who follow in the way of this heavenly peace are destined to be sanctified to the eternal service of the ever-advancing sons of the eternal God. Henceforth, it is not a duty but rather your exalted privilege to cleanse yourselves from all evils of mind and body while you seek for perfection in the love of God.

"Your sonship is grounded in faith, and you are to remain unmoved by fear. Your joy is born of trust in the divine Word, [Jesus here as He the Spirit of All Truth !] and you shall not therefore be led to doubt the reality of the Father's love and mercy. It is the very goodness of God that leads men into true and genuine repentance. Your secret of the mastery of self is bound up with your faith in the indwelling Spirit, which ever works by love. Even this saving faith you have not of yourselves; it also is the Gift of God. And if you are the children of this living faith, you are no longer the bondslaves of self but rather the triumphant masters of yourselves, the liberated sons of God.

"If, then, My Children, you are born of the Spirit, you are forever delivered from the self-conscious bondage of a life of self-denial and watchcare over the desires of the flesh, and you are translated into the joyous Kingdom [Family of God in Jesus] of the spirit, whence you spontaneously show forth the fruits of the Spirit in your daily lives; and the fruits of the Spirit are the essence of the highest type of enjoyable and ennobling self-control, even the heights of terrestrial mortal attainment -- true self-mastery."

[Our Sovereign Savior Jesus Christ Michael, later in his Ministry here, tells us the fruits of the Spirit to be:]

[page 2054, Jesus, in A.D. 30] "And the fruits of the divine Spirit which are yielded in the lives of Spirit-born and God-knowing mortals are: loving service, unselfish devotion, courageous loyalty, sincere fairness, enlightened honesty, undying hope, confiding trust, merciful ministry, unfailing goodness, forgiving tolerance, and enduring peace."

[When were you reBorn anew in Spirit? If not yet, when will you try again inliving faith ? Now is a good Day in the Eternal Light of Eternal Truth tocome and join us in the Family of God in Jesus here in Spirit !]

Paradise Peace and sure Progress into All Truth (see John 16:7-16; Rev 21:3-7; others)
Your Brother Dave, a Jesusonian Truthist in Jesus' Spirit always here !
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Sunday, March 06, 2005

The Paradise Trinity -part 1

My (Brother Dave's) added comments below are in [ ] square brackets to this public domain text on the Paradise Trinity. Please share this with all who desire deeper comprehensions of the One Paradise Trinity of Three Coordinate (equal) Divine Persons. More on this will follow here soon.


The Paradise Trinity of eternal Deities facilitates the Father's escape from Personality absolutism. The Trinity perfectly associates the limitless expression of God's infinite Personal will with the absoluteness of Deity. The Eternal Son and the various Sons of divine origin, together with the Conjoint Actor [The Infinite Spirit] and his universe children, [our Holy Spirit Who is the coordinate Creative Partner-Minister of our Maker-Master Jesus Christ] effectively provide for the Father's liberation from the limitations otherwise inherent in primacy, perfection, changelessness, eternity, universality, absoluteness, and infinity.

The Paradise Trinity effectively provides for the full expression and perfect revelation of the eternal nature of Deity. The Stationary Sons of the Trinity likewise afford a full and perfect revelation of divine justice. The Trinity is Deity unity, and this unity rests eternally upon the absolute foundations of the divine oneness of the three original and co-ordinate and coexistent Personalities, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit.

From the present situation on the circle of eternity, looking backward into the endless past, we [high Paradise origin Sons of God] can discover only one inescapable inevitability in universe affairs, and that is the Paradise Trinity. I deem the Trinity to have been inevitable. As I view the past, present, and future of time, I consider nothing else in all the universe of universes to have been inevitable. The present master universe, viewed in retrospect or in prospect, is unthinkable without the Trinity. Given the Paradise Trinity, we can postulate alternate or even multiple ways of doing all things, but without the Trinity of Father, Son, and Spirit we are unable to conceive how the Infinite could achieve threefold and co-ordinate Personalization in the face of the absolute oneness of Deity. No other concept of creation measures up to the Trinity standards of the completeness of the absoluteness inherent in Deity unity coupled with the repleteness of volitional liberation inherent in the threefold personalization of Deity.

[God the Primal and Final Paradise Father, the Universal Father]

It would seem that the Father, back in eternity, inaugurated a policy of profound self-distribution. There is inherent in the selfless, loving, and lovable nature of the Universal Father something which causes Him to reserve to Himself the exercise of only those powers and that authority which He apparently finds it impossible to delegate or to bestow.

The Universal Father all along has divested Himself of every part of Himself that was bestowable on any other Creator or creature. He has delegated to his divine Sons and their associated intelligences every power and all authority that could be delegated. He has actually transferred to his Sovereign Sons, in their respective universes, every prerogative of administrative authority that was transferable. In the affairs of a local universe, He has made each Sovereign Creator Son just as perfect, competent, and authoritative as is the Eternal Son in the original and central universe. He has given away, actually bestowed, with the dignity and sanctity of Personality possession, all of Himself and all of his attributes, everything He possibly could divest himself of, in every way, in every age, in every place, and to every person, and in every universe except that of his central indwelling. [The infinite, nuclear Isle of Paradise -- God's Home -- and with plenty of room for an infinite sized Family.]

Divine Personality is not self-centered; self-distribution and sharing of Personality characterize divine freewill selfhood. Creatures crave association with other personal creatures; Creators are moved to share divinity with their universe children; the Personality of the Infinite is disclosed as the Universal Father, Who shares Reality of Being and Equality of Self with two co-ordinate Personalities, the Eternal Son and the Conjoint Actor. [The Infinite Spirit (fully within our Holy Spirit here in this universe)]

For knowledge concerning the Father's Personality and divine attributes we will always be dependent on the revelations of the Eternal Son, for when the conjoint act of creation was effected, when the Third Person of Deity sprang into personality existence [actually always eternal; but "sprang" is a condescension to our gross, limited minds here] and executed the combined concepts of his divine Parents, the Father ceased to exist as the Unqualified Personality. With the coming into being of the Conjoint Actor and the materialization of the central core of creation, certain eternal changes took place. God gave Himself as an Absolute Personality to his Eternal Son. Thus does the Father bestow the "Personality of infinity" upon his only-begotten Son, while They both bestow the "conjoint Personality" of their Eternal Union upon the Infinite Spirit.

For these and other reasons beyond the concept of the finite mind, it is exceedingly difficult for the human creature to comprehend God's infinite Father-Personality except as it is universally revealed in the Eternal Son and, with the Son, is universally active in the Infinite Spirit.

Since the Paradise Sons of God [Our Eternal Son-Father Revealer Jesus Christ] visit the evolutionary worlds [about 7 trillion human inhabited worlds just in the present, limited completion of our Grand Universe age; much more to come... without end] and sometimes even there dwell in the likeness of mortal flesh, and since these Bestowals make it possible for mortal man actually to know something of the nature and character of divine Personality, therefore must the creatures of the planetary spheres look to the Bestowals of these Paradise Sons for reliable and trustworthy information regarding the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. [Only our Father-Son Jesus Christ (aka Jesus Christ Michael) is the Full and Final Revelation of God. We will be following Jesus for countless trillions more years in our unending ascensions of Father finding and Father God revealing ! What a glorious Destiny we have with our Father Friend and Very Elder Brother Jesus ! Amen !]


By the technique of trinitization the Father divests himself of that unqualified Spirit Personality which is the Son, but in so doing He constitutes Himself the Father of this very Son and thereby possesses Himself of unlimited capacity to become the divine Father of all subsequently created, eventuated, or other personalized types of intelligent will creatures. As the Absolute and Unqualified Personality the Father can function only AS and WITH the Son, but as a Personal Father [I AM] He continues to Bestow Personality upon the diverse hosts of the differing levels of intelligent will creatures, and He forever maintains Personal relations of loving association with this vast Family of universe Children.

After the Father has bestowed upon the Personality of his Son the fullness of Himself, and when this act of Self-bestowal is complete and perfect, of the infinite power and nature which are thus existent in the Father-Son union, the eternal Partners conjointly [together as one] bestow those qualities and attributes which constitute still another Being like themselves; and this Conjoint Personality, the Infinite Spirit, completes the Existential Personalization of Deity.

The Son is indispensable to the Fatherhood of God. The Spirit is indispensable to the Fraternity of the Second and Third Persons. Three persons are a minimum social group, but this is least of all the many reasons for believing in the inevitability of the Conjoint Actor. [The Infinite Spirit IS a Person !!! Yes, Humans are not able to fully grasp this; but I personally in Spirit Know this to be True ! So do you; or so soon will you, too.]

The First Source and Center is the Infinite Father-Personality, the unlimited Source Personality. The Eternal Son is the unqualified Personality-absolute, that divine Being who stands throughout all time and eternity as the perfect Revelation of the Personal nature of God. The Infinite Spirit is the Conjoint Personality, the unique Personal consequence of the Everlasting Father-Son Union.

The Personality of the First Source and Center is the Personality of Infinity minus the absolute Personality of the Eternal Son. The Personality of the Third Source and Center is the superadditive consequence of the Union of the liberated Father-personality [I AM] and the absolute Son-personality. [I AM; I AM AS I AM ...I AM IN I AM ... I AM THAT I AM ... I AM your Father ... I AM your Father-Son ... I AM in you; and you Are in Me in Jesus ... much more ... Thank You our loving Father of Fathers and Light of all True Lights !]

The Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit are unique Persons; none is a duplicate; Each is Original; All are United.

The Eternal Son alone experiences the fullness of divine Personality relationship, consciousness of both Sonship with the Father and Paternity to the Spirit and of divine Equality with both Father-ancestor and Spirit-associate. The Father knows the experience of having a Son who is his equal, but the Father knows no ancestral antecedents. [The Father-Infinite-I AM IS the One Uncaused Cause of All Reality !] The Eternal Son has the experience of sonship, recognition of Personality Ancestry, and at the same time the Son is conscious of being Joint Parent to the Infinite Spirit. The Infinite Spirit is conscious of twofold Personality Ancestry but is not parental to a co-ordinate Deity personality. With the Spirit the existential cycle of Deity Personalization attains completion; the Primary Personalities of the Third Source and Center are experiential and are seven in number. [much more later, if interested]

I am of origin in the Paradise Trinity. I know the Trinity as Unified Deity; I also know that the Father, Son, and Spirit exist and act in their definite Personal capacities. I positively know that They not only act Personally and Collectively, but that They also Co-ordinate their performances in various groupings, so that in the end they function in seven different singular and plural capacities. [ I listed the seven combinations of the Triune God's will here before] And since these seven Associations exhaust the possibilities for such divinity Combination, it is inevitable that the Realities of the universe shall appear in seven variations of values, meanings, and Personality. [to soon be continued]

Paradise Peace and sure Progress into All Truth, (John 16:7-16, Rev 21:3-7)
Your Brother Dave

Sunday, February 27, 2005

The Seven Spirits of God

In an online Theological discussion group, I was asked if the following Bible verse could relate to the seven Spirits of God, and my replies follow.

Isaiah 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.

Hi ! Your are spiritually perceptive in seeing the above Bible text as relating possibly to the seven spirits of God. There are many categories and levels of the seven spirits of God. Hopefully the following public domain text on this will add some; my added comments are in [ ] Later today, I will try to post some more on the 1-3-7-Infinite Trinity. I put much in my initial post, and will have to post much more for this to slowly clarify, even partially. God and the Trinity Godhead are each and all Infinite and infinitely complex, as I shared before.

[public domain text:]

"There are three distinct spirit circuits in our local universe:

1. The bestowal spirit of the Creator Son, the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth.

2. The spirit circuit of the Divine Minister, the Holy Spirit.

3. The intelligence-ministry circuit, including the more or less unified activities but diverse functioning of the seven adjutant mind-spirits.

(Now, a little more on just 3. above, the seven adjutant mind-spirits:)

The seven adjutant mind-spirits are the creation of the Divine Minister [our Infinite-Holy Spirit, the Partner of Jesus Christ, the "Bride of Christ] of a local universe. These mind-spirits are similar in character but diverse in power, and all partake alike of the nature of the Universe Spirit, although they are hardly regarded as personalities apart from their Mother Creator. The seven adjutants have been given the following names: the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of worship, the spirit of counsel, the spirit of knowledge, the spirit of courage, the spirit of understanding, the spirit of intuition--of quick perception.

These are the "seven spirits of God," "like lamps burning before the throne," which the prophet [apostle John's Revelation] saw in the symbols of vision. But he did not see the seats of the four and twenty sentinels about these seven adjutant mind-spirits. This record represents the confusion of two presentations, one pertaining to the universe headquarters and the other to the system capital. The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem, [not the city Jerusalem] the headquarters of your local system of inhabited worlds.

It is the presence of the seven adjutant mind-spirits on the primitive worlds that conditions the course of organic evolution; that explains why evolution is purposeful and not accidental. [All true evolution is actually God's apparently slower creations in space-time here] These adjutants represent that function of the mind ministry of the Infinite Spirit which is extended to the lower orders of intelligent life through the operations of a local universe Mother Spirit. The adjutants are the children of the Universe Mother Spirit and constitute her personal ministry to the material minds of the realms. Wherever and whenever such mind is manifest, these spirits are variously functioning.

The seven adjutant mind-spirits are called by names which are the equivalents of the following designations: intuition, understanding, courage, knowledge, counsel, worship, and wisdom. These mind-spirits send forth their influence into all the inhabited worlds as a differential urge, each seeking receptivity capacity for manifestation quite apart from the degree to which its fellows may find reception and opportunity for function.

We [some Sons of God and Angels under Jesus] are handicapped for words adequately to designate these seven adjutant mind-spirits. They are ministers of the lower levels of experiential mind, and they may be described, in the order of evolutionary attainment, as follows:

1. The spirit of intuition--quick perception, the primitive physical and inherent reflex instincts, the directional and other self- preservative endowments of all mind creations; the only one of the adjutants to function so largely in the lower orders of animal life and the only one to make extensive functional contact with the nonteachable levels of mechanical mind. [I think this may be the cause of all plant and lower animal life to have a mind to pattern its (maraculous to us !) develelopment - growth.]

2. The spirit of understanding--the impulse of co-ordination, the spontaneous and apparently automatic association of ideas. This is the gift of the co-ordination of acquired knowledge, the phenomenon of quick reasoning, rapid judgment, and prompt decision.

3. The spirit of courage--the fidelity endowment--in personal beings, the basis of character acquirement and the intellectual root of moral stamina and spiritual bravery. When enlightened by facts and inspired by truth, this becomes the secret of the urge of evolutionary ascension by the channels of intelligent and conscientious self-direction.

4. The spirit of knowledge--the curiosity-mother of adventure and discovery, the scientific spirit; the guide and faithful associate of the spirits of courage and counsel; the urge to direct the endowments of courage into useful and progressive paths of growth.

5. The spirit of counsel--the social urge, the endowment of species co-operation; the ability of will creatures to harmonize with their fellows; the origin of the gregarious instinct among the more lowly creatures.

6. The spirit of worship--the religious impulse, the first differential urge separating mind creatures into the two basic classes of mortal existence. The spirit of worship forever distinguishes the animal of its association from the soulless creatures of mind endowment. Worship is the badge of spiritual- ascension candidacy.

7. The spirit of wisdom--the inherent tendency of all moral creatures towards orderly and progressive evolutionary advancement. This is the highest of the adjutants, the spirit co-ordinator and articulator of the work of all the others. This spirit is the secret of that inborn urge of mind creatures which initiates and maintains the practical and effective program of the ascending scale of existence; that gift of living things which accounts for their inexplicable ability to survive and, in survival, to utilize the co- ordination of all their past experience and present opportunities for the acquisition of all of everything that all of the other six mental ministers can mobilize in the mind of the organism concerned. Wisdom is the acme of intellectual performance. Wisdom is the goal of a purely mental and moral existence.

[Note well that if God (the Holy Spirit) were to switch mind levels 6 and 7 above, then we would all be ONLY worshipping without free will control - God gives us the higher spirit of wisdom and our sacred inherent volition as a Personality, and He our Holy Father-Son Spirit of Truth to allow us to CHOOSE if we want to worship our loving Father God in Jesus, or not to.]

The adjutant mind-spirits experientially grow, but they never become personal. They evolve in function, and the function of the first five in the animal orders is to a certain extent essential to the function of all seven as human intellect. This animal relationship makes the adjutants more practically effective as human mind; hence animals are to a certain extent indispensable to man's intellectual as well as to his physical evolution. [But not our certain soul and spirit growth (evolution) without limit !]

Life Carriers can organize the material forms, or physical patterns, of living beings, but the Spirit provides the initial spark of life and bestows the endowment of mind. Even the living forms of experimental life which the Life Carriers organize on their universe headquarters worlds are always devoid of reproductive powers. When the life formulas and the vital patterns are correctly assembled and properly organized, the presence of a Life Carrier is sufficient to initiate life, but all such living organisms are lacking in two essential attributes--mind endowment and reproductive powers. Animal mind and human mind are gifts of the local universe Mother Spirit, functioning through the seven adjutant mind-spirits, while creature ability to reproduce is the specific and personal impartation of the Universe Spirit to the ancestral life plasm inaugurated by the Life Carriers.

Adjutant-spirit minds. This is the ministry of a local universe Mother Spirit functioning through her seven adjutant mind-spirits on the teachable (nonmechanical) level of material mind. On this level material mind is experiencing: as subhuman (animal) intellect in the first five adjutants; as human (moral) intellect in the seven adjutants; as superhuman (midwayer) intellect in the last two adjutants."

Bro Dave later in this post: You may call God your (better to say Our) Father or Mother, or Father and Mother in One Spirit Combined, and thousands of other excellent and inspired descriptions. What do you do with (Gen) "Let US (Elohim - the Gods, Trinity) make Man in OUR (Elohim) own Image." and the nearly 2500 other uses of Elohim, and only 250 uses of Eloah (God singular) ? It is there ! Deal with this in honesty and in He the Spirit of Truth, and you will learn much more Truth.

Yes, we test the spirit(s) many times a day: "Do not scoff at those who prophecy; but TEST everything and ACCEPT that which is good, beautiful and true."

Note also that, as we all debate and learn about the Spirit(s) of God and the Trinity here; none of that developing Theology and philosophy has anything to do with our certain salvation in/by/with our Master-Maker Jesus Christ ! All sincere Persons here will certain be continuing this glorious intellectual and spiritual development, Individualy and as in groups, up on the (next higher levels) of the mansion worlds made by Jesus for our further rehabilitation and training ! Good or bad Theology-philosophy will NOT take away from us the Eternal TRUTH-FACT that JESUS SAVES DIRECTLY ! We believers in Him are just ambassadors, disciples, followers, etc.

Living faith in/with Jesus in the truth of our Father God's love and mercy in freely granting each of us eternal life as our Father's ascending sons of God in His Family is all that is needed to give us the Personal assurance of this gracious, free salvation ! We will increasingly enjoy the never-ending service opportunities in the Brotherhood of Man under the Leadership of Jesus here.

Paradise peace and sure Progress,
Your Brother Dave

Tuesday, February 22, 2005

Some reflections on the Truth of One God as Trinity; our Spiritual Authority

It is interesting that God the Father and God the Son and God The Spirit are referred to about 2500 times in the O.T. as "Elohim", meaning: Plural Deity, The Gods, The Trinity. See in Genesis "In the beginning, the Gods-The Trinity-The Godhead ["Elohim" is used] Created the Heavens and the earth." also, "Let US make (Personality-Spirit-soul) Man in OUR own Image", and many others. Sadly, most Egyptian-Palestinian-Jewish minds were not then capable of even partially comprehending this deep, infinite Truth. Today, more of us are partially grasping this SAME Eternal Truth being continually Revealed in Spirit to us. Note also in the O.T. that "Eloah" (God, singular) is found about ten times less, only 250 times, compared to the 2500 times of "Elohim", Gods plural.

The One Paradise Deity - Infinite I AM - is the Infinite Trinity Union (Unity) of

1.GOD the Father

2. GOD the Son

3. GOD the Infinite Spirit

(Please get beyond the spiritually puerile description of Him or Her as "The "Holy Ghost", as in Casper the cartoon ghost, etc. :)) )
Do not think that GOD is Self-divided into 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3; as each of the three Persons of the Trinity are each fully GOD ! as The Father shares All with/in/as the Son and with/in/as the Spirit; and this One Infinite Spirit also downsteps in countless ways (Hosts, Spirits, Angels, etc.) to further help reveal God to the many Heavens and universes, and to us.

Now to the Seven Will-Volition-Decision-Choice (I AM Infinite Volition) total possible combinations of the Three Ever Existent Eternal Persons of the Paridise Trinity:

1. God the Father wills by Himself

2. God the Son wills by Himself or Herself

[Herself? you may question? Know that each Infinite and Eternal Personality Light far transcends the very gross, finite human (false) concepts of all Paradise Beings and Persons being confined in only about a six foot tall human flesh with mortal sexuality ! And do you picture toilets still needed in Paradise ?? What gross, unspiritual, unreal limitations that would be ! How could they Create anything "BIG", such as galaxies and much bigger eternal Heavens ? Our One GodMan JESUS Christ IS NOT still confined to such a gross physical body that He only briefly used here,7BC - AD30, when He Incarnated (not "born") from Paradise-Eternity to do -Complete- "It is finished ..." - the perfect sevenfold Will of the Trinity - One Godhead ! He, our Master Jesus, could wear all the stars in His huge universe here as a mere necklace if He wanted to -- but even that is too small and too gross a concept of Him and His full GOD-Power ! Yes, ALL Power in Heaven and on earth (and more to be later Revealed in stages !) is given to Him as our GODMAN. Note well in the Spirit of Truth: Jesus did not slowly become God down here; God did not slowly become Man down here in Jesus. Jesus was/IS/will be always One Spirit+ Person GODMAN. Think of Personality, Spirit, Soul and Mind as each fully more Real and more Useful in eternal service of God than as our beginning fleshly bodies down here. (Enough for now) ]

3. God the Spirit wills by Herself or Himself (same as above; Personality is the True concept, not body)

4. God the Father and God the Son conjointly (together) will as a Team of Two Persons. (This is the Primal origin of all Human Personalities in this infinite Father and Son Union, the same as Jesus Christ IS fully Perfect now !)

5. God the Father and God the Spirit conjointly (together) will as a Team of Two Persons.

6. God the Son and God the Spirit conjointly (together) will as a Team of Two Persons.

7. God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit conjointly (together) will as a Team of Three Persons [but NOT as the One Trinity Union (Unity) !! As Three different Persons, and One in Spirit (of #3 above) ]

1-3-7-infinity ... The One Trinity, and all other possible Trinity of Trinities without limit, are ALSO able to Rule Paradise and all Eternal and temporal to eternal universes, now and being made, and to be made AS THE TRINITY - and this is in addition to the Reality-Realities of The Sevenfold total combinations of the One will of the Triune Gods ...
So, now some here, may grasp a little more about the many uses of 1 and 3 and 7 in the Bibles.

The 7 eyes and the 7 lamps in Rev. are also true - but on lower spiritual levels closer to us, when the apostle John was allowed to visit in Spirit-soul-mind. Also Paul did truly state that he was taken up into the "third Heaven" and even into Paradise. That may help show that there are many levels made for us to ascend in more GodMan fusing realizations, and under the Ever True Light of Life -our Savior and Guide Jesus Christ. (aka Jesus Christ Michael - our same GodMan)

Some one asked here to tell of our Visions of God: (good !) I conceive of God in many ways in worship, prayers, reflections and ongoing Personal Revelations; one frequent one is the Infinite Light (Luminosity Spirit Presence) of the Universal Father and the Infinite Light (Luminosity Spirit Presence) of the Eternal Son AS ONE in our Father-Son-Elder Brother-Son of God and Son of Man- GODMAN Jesus Christ. I was/am given a mighty Revelation of He our One Infinite and Holy Father-Son-Spirit of Truth.The full Sovereignty of the Trinity Governent of all Universes is within and manifested by our Master-Maker-Savior-Father-Son-Forever Friend JESUS. The highest spiritual realizations and our spiritual destiny must include the eternal Truth fact of Jesus Christ as SON OF MAN as well as His other tens of thousands of Spirit Titles and Designations, which are still being revealed to us. How can you teach a guppy what a website is, or what Divine Grace-Mercy is ?? If the guppy could first be reBorn in Spirit up to our level - then ... OK. Grok ? (Comprehend what Jesus is doing to/for us ? !!)

Very wise words of an unknown to me Person: (probably a Woman Protestant Seminary student in the 1940's in the Midwest USA when her professors were in heavy debate about God. She said:)
"IF OUR GOD (Elohim, Eloah, Jesus, Allah, Mazda, Yehweh, Jehovah, ABBA, Christ, etc) were SMALL enough for our mere Human understandings, HE/SHE/THEY would NOT be BIG enough for our True needs."

He, JESUS, The Spirit of All Truth is fully here with us ! Thank You Our Father and Sons and Spirits !

Note: I am fully a trans-ecclesiastical, trans-denominational, eclectic exegete for nearly 30 years to date; and my Main Source of All Truth here is GOD AND JESUS- ONE IN SPIRIT ! Thus, in His True Spirit Liberty, I am not restricted to the mere finite Bible translations, human interpretations as being All Truth. See the (Infinite, Paradise) "Scripture of Truth" in Daniel 10:21 and others. The Living Word of GOD IS JESUS IN SPIRIT and not the printed Bibles that soon rot to dust. I DO Know in Spirit and DO believe 100% in sharing about the best 3-5% of all of the Christian Bibles. The inverse would be bad: if another Christian were to believe only 3-5% in 100% of the Bible's printed words. :))

One real example of true faith: If you are driving on a dangerous mountain road at night in the rain and ice, and your accidently slip off, and plubge down a 1000 foot or more cliff, will you cry out in Personal living faith:

1. BIBLE ! save me !!!

2. Father-Son Savior Jesus, I commend my Spirit-soul-mind unified by Personality to You and Your eternal gracious love, mercy and ministry ! Thank you Father ! (no words in mind or voice there are required; He - as GODMAN - is Spirit Luminosity in the Center of you -soul - in Spirit and in Truth ! He Knows You before you even think or speak !

3. Use you own wordless, or in words, in living faith given to all of us by God and Jesus as One.

May we all follow our One Jesus and become more one in Spirit in the Family of One 1-3-7-Infinity God.

If we are to love our enemies ! we are by the loving Mandate of Jesus-GOD ! - - WHY do some here still quibble about old human made creeds and crystallized dogma of the distant past? Common GOALS, not fossilized, intellectual human CREEDS, should help unite in loving service all True Believers in our Godman Jesus ! This true, spiritual Brotherhood of JESUS is ever growing - here on earth too ! I am a Jesusonian -I am a Beloved Son of Jesus - I am a Beloved Son of I AM (GOD). I am chosen by Him as of 5-24-1977, and I freely choose to try to now be His ambassador here in and under the Trinity Government of All Reality.

Any Spirit of Truth-led comments, Personal God-conscious experiences, and sincere questions are welcome. I am busy, and will be frequently slow in responding. Patience is a virtue.

Paradise Peace of/in Jesus to my Christian Brothers and Sisters,and all others as future Jesusonian Christians,
Your Brother Dave

Wednesday, February 16, 2005

"COMPANIONSHIP" a Spirit of Truth poem

No distant Lord have I,
loving afar to be,
Made flesh for me
he cannot rest
until he rests in me.
I need not journey far
this dearest friend to see.
Companionship is always mine;
he makes his home with me.
I envy not the twelve.
Nearer to me is he.
The life he once lived here on earth
he lives again in me.
Ascended now to God
my witness there to be,
His witness here am I
because his Spirit dwells in me.
O glorious Son of God
Incarnate Deity,
I shall forever be with Thee
because Thou art with me.

by Maltbie Davenport Babcock, 1858 - 1901

Brother Dave comments, one of my favorite Bible verses on He the Spirit of Truth is found in John 16:7-16 Note the significant word: "He"and not just an "it" ! He the Spirit of Truth is just like Jesus, except for the physical body ! and His Eternal All Truth to His sons of God (you and me !) is ever unfolding !

Have you had a Personal religious experience with our Living Savior Jesus here fully as our True God in Spirit ? Many sincere spiritual seekers have; and increasingly more will in the future !

Peace and progress in Jesus and in His loving and merciful Truth Spirit,
Your Brother Dave

Friday, February 11, 2005

The Vivid, Glorious Conversion of Charles G. Finney

Charles Grandison Finney

He was born, 1792AD, Warren, Conn. and physically died, 1875, Oberlin, Ohio. After a short career in law, he became interested in religious studies, and then suddenly, had a vivid, glorious personal religious experience and conversion, described below.

The Vision of Charles G. Finney
From "COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS" by Richard M. Bucke, M.D., Copyright 1901,1922,1923 SBN 0-525-47245-2 PART V, CHAPTER 13, pages 287-289

My added comments are in these brackets: [ ]

"The illumination of Charles G. Finney took place early in his 30th year - that is, in October,1821. He had the usual [?] earnest [fervent?] religious temperment, and for some time had been greatly troubled about his spiritual state, eagerly desiring, but unable to reach assurance of, salvation. Then occurred what he calls his "conversion." He says:

'The rising of my soul was so great that I rushed into the room behind the office to pray.

There was no fire and no light in the room; nevertheless it appeared as if it were perfectly light. [Spiritual Lumininousity of Jesus Christ Michael !!] As I went in and shut the door it seemed as if I met the Lord [our God] Jesus Christ face to face. It did not occurr to me that it was wholly a mental state; it seemed that I saw him as I would see any other man. He said nothing, but looked at me in such a manner as to break me right down at his feet. I have always since regarded this as a most remarkable state of mind; for it seemed that he stood before me, and I fell down at his feet and poured out my soul to him. I wept aloud like a child, and made such confessions as I could with my choked utterance.

I must have continued in this state for a good while; but my mind was too much absorbed to recollect anything I said. But I know, as soon as my mind bacame calm, I returned to the front office, and found that the fire, that I had made of large wood, was nearly burned out. But as I turned and was about to take a seat by the fire, I received a mighty baptism of the Holy Ghost. [The Holy Spirit] Without any expectation of it, without ever having this thought in my mind that was any such thing for me, without any recollection that I had ever heard the thing mentioned by any person in the world, the Holy Spirit descended upon me in a manner that seemed to go through me, body and soul.

No words can express the wonderful love [LOVE !] that was shed abroad in my heart. I wept aloud with joy and love; and I do not know, but I should say, I literally bellowed out the unutterable gushings of my heart. These waves [Spirit Luminosity WAVES !] came over me, and over me, and over me, one after the other, until I recollect I cried out, (I shall die if these waves continue to pass over me.) I said, Lord, I cannot bear any more; yet I had no fear of death.

How long I continued in this state I do not know. But it was late in the evening when a member of my choir came to see me. He was a member of the church. He found me in this state of loud weeping, and said, "Mr. Finney, what ails you ?" I could make him no answer for some time. He then said, "Are you in pain ?" I gathered myself up and replied, "No, but so happy that I cannot live."

This is from AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY by Charles G. Finney, Hodder & Stoughton, London, Copyright 1892, pages 17,18

[Later, Charles Finney states:] "Let no man think that those sermons which have been called so powerful were productions of my own brain or of my own heart unassisted by the Holy Ghost. They are not mine, but from the Holy Spirit in me."
[The Holy Father-Son-Spirit of Truth Who is still being poured out here upon all flesh, and Who lovingly spiritually Guides us into All Truth : Our Universal Father God]

These same spiritual Encounters with the Living Master Jesus do continue today ! If you have had a tremendous and transforming spiritual experience, please share if you are so Spirit led. These sacred experiences will probably not convince rigid nonbelievers; but they do support and instruct all Spirit-led believers in Jesus.

Perfect Paradise Peace in Jesus is free to all who dare to believe,
Your Brother Dave

Wednesday, February 09, 2005

Why there are some inevitabilities of life and difficult times

[This important material is fully in the public domain; and thus you are free to share this with all others; as we are progressing into our Father's Light and Life Eternal freely given to us Beloved Sons and Daughters of God in Jesus Christ.]

"The uncertainties of life and the vicissitudes of existence do not in any manner contradict the concept of the universal sovereignty of God. All evolutionary [perfecting] creature life is beset by certain inevitabilities. Consider the following:

1. Is courage -- strength of character -- desirable? Then must man be reared in an environment which necessitates grappling with hardships and reacting to disappointments.

2. Is altruism -- service of one's fellows -- desirable? Then must life experience provide for encountering situations of social inequality.

3. Is hope -- the grandeur of trust -- desirable? Then human existence must constantly be confronted with insecurities and recurrent uncertainties.

4. Is faith -- the supreme assertion of human thought -- desirable? Then must the mind of man find itself in that troublesome predicament where it ever knows less than it can believe.

5. Is the love of truth and the willingness to go wherever it leads, desirable? Then must man grow up in a world where error is present and falsehood always possible.

6. Is idealism -- the approaching concept of the divine -- desirable? Then must man struggle in an environment of relative goodness and beauty, surroundings stimulative of the irrepressible reach for better things.

7. Is loyalty -- devotion to highest duty -- desirable? Then must man carry on amid the possibilities of betrayal and desertion. The valor of devotion to duty consists in the implied danger of default.

8. Is unselfishness -- the spirit of self-forgetfulness -- desirable? Then must mortal man live face to face with the incessant clamoring of an inescapable self for recognition and honor. Man could not dynamically choose the divine life if there were no self-life to forsake. Man could never lay saving hold on
righteousness if there were no potential evil to exalt and differentiate the good by contrast.

9. Is pleasure -- the satisfaction of happiness -- desirable? Then must man live in a world where the alternative of pain and the likelihood of suffering are ever-present experiential possibilities."

Despite all of our uncertain and trying times, we do have the very Paradise peace of Jesus within us to mightily comfort and sustain us believers in and with Him ! Amen !

Love, peace and progress into all Truth,
Your Brother Dave, a Jesusonian Truthist